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What does $15 buy you?

What does $15 buy you?





The wires are abuzz with Steve Ballmer’s latest uttering- his insistence that the Windows Mobile OS is worth at least $8 per device. Most websites are reacting with amazement - with Android free and Symbian going free Windows Mobile just does not seem to be competing.
Steve Ballmer’s insistence that “We are doing well, we believe in the value of what we are doing.” does not ring well with those who love to hate Windows Mobile, but it may be useful to list exactly what $8-$15 will buy you (and you wont get from Android or Symbian).
  • Built-in Exchange push e-mail support.
  • Support for remote device management, application deployment and device policy management.
  • Support for full device encryption (including external memory cards).
  • Free sync with Windows Live Hotmail and Live Contacts.
  • Windows Live Search.
  • Live Messenger IM Client.
  • Software for simple Internet Sharing.
  • Office files reading and editing.
  • A pretty good e-mail application with built-in smart filtering search.
  • A pretty good bluetooth stack.
  • Access to 18000 + applications already out in the market.
  • Support by carriers and a wide developer community.
  • Security certification by recognized accreditation bodies.
  • Indemnification for the technology used.
Sure, OEM’s could decide to produce Android devices, and then find the phones they produce are unattractive to business users because they did not license Exchange Activesync, and does not appeal to others because it does not have any applications yet, and others still will complain the phone does not support A2DP. The OEM may find some carriers are reluctant to support their new device on their network.
I would gladly pay $15 for a mature OS and the ODM’s who are rallying to Windows Mobile knows this.
Ultimately, if your OS is free, you may just get what you are paying for.


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I thought this article to be interesting. First of all the features vary based on the phone you choose, smartphone or pocket PC. But I guess I have a problem with the way that the OS is implemented across the carriers. Much like Vista and some of XP the software is bloated. I think that MS is going to have to continue to streamline how the OS interacts with the user alot more before they can start to gloat. They got the apps and app development down though, it's the main reason I think that I'm staying with a WM device. I think that ActiveSync needs the most work as far as improvement. I am curious though how much attraction Android will have once people start developing apps, I think it will take off really big.
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not to be totally off topic (sorry) but wouldn't it be interesting to know what people can actually buy/get for $15? living in ny, seriously thats not enough money to have in my pocket.
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I would gladly pay the $8-15 and no more than $20 for an upgrade to Windows Mobile 7 or 8 when it FINALLY comes out! It is a well spent investment, Windows is all I know, and with the 18,000 plus apps out there a considerable amount of them are $50 and up??? I will never say never but the most I have paid for any app has been $10 and if I ever pay $50 for an app it will be a business expense and I will have to see an IMMEDIATE return on the benefit of having to kick out for it!
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Cool Standard Ballmer FUD on open source

For my part, I'm waiting to upgrade to Android. Developers don't have to ask for approval from the bloated Microsoft bureaucracy before they improve it. Microsoft hopes they can lock you into their upgrade strategy. You know. The one that worked in the 90's. It's over, Steve.
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Who says your app has to be approved by MS? Just write an app,get a basic trusted app certificate and distribute your app.What your talking about is Qualcomm......t....r...e..m..b...l.l..e..Oh how I hate QC.Evil company!

Why use MS? Just like the rest of you said,over 18,000+ apps out there.Depending on your device and how old it is.Its why I jumped when Windows Mobile devices became available in a phone.Going from my LG VX9800 camera cell phone to a WM phone...is like breakin out of cell phone prison.FREEDOM.

Android's success depends on the code that was used to write it,and how much functionality it has(eg..plug n play..ease of use..plus built-in software).If one is restricted by a difficult dev code such as ASM,or uses a whole new set of code instructions,the Android market will more than likely fail....or be a slow catch-on.With the market the way it is now,one doesn't need something that takes too long to make a few bucks.Last I seen,Google's stock was at $435 a share.One of the most expensive stocks in the Nasdaq exchange.Google better have something good up their sleeve.

Oh and....as for the name of this topic ------> 1/4 tank of gas
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I thought it was the carriers that were responsible not Microsoft. Some carriers lock them down, add or remove features etc.
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Comment Back at THE-COPS,

The Cops that was a very good statement, this reminds me of back in the day when the Major Game Systems Sega and Nintendo were running the Video Game World and TurboGrax-16 (Who?) and Neo Geo (What Is That!?) tried to break in and compete. And they did not fail because of Sales but the LACK of Software Support!

Where is the Android going to stand 2 years or so from now when the Computer World is primarily Windows, Mac, and Linux???

Windows for Me is Very Convenient in so many aspects and I am sure Mac and Linux Users would have similar statements for their respective Systems.

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I see you are one like myself.Not many know about the Neo-Geo.And wow...The TG16.I had one of those back in '90.Only had Keith Courage in Alpha Zones though.I couldn't find many games that I liked so I took it back & got a Genesis (Still own it).NEC did very well with their credit card size games.Dont know why anyone else didnt follow suit with that type of deal.It was smart sizing.They would've done better if it wern't for Sega and NES beating the market.They did however,do very well in Japan (PC Engine /Magic Engine).Had crap loads of games.

Then you talk of Neo-Geo.Omg SNK would've had something really good if it wern't so overpriced.$600 for a new Neo and $75 - $200 per game.Ouch.But that thing was like having an arcade in your home.250 mbit games.Probably more sound effects than anything.

You forgot Atari Lynx.That was my favorite handheld.And it bombed because there just wasn't much of a game lineup.Sux

I know this was about Win mob.And then shifted over to Android.Then you mentioned all those goodies.It was pure nostalgia (spelling).

I think Linux will stay around.It's opensource so there will always be updates and new devices to run it on.However,I'm not real convinced about Mac.
MS will ALWAYS be around.As for Android,it depends.No one really knows yet.
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